Israel vs Hamas (7 Viewers)

[GrandAdmiral]

Looks like the fight is on with Israeli soldiers and civilians amongst the dead already. Question becomes, how long before we get dragged into this?

Netanyahu says Israel is ‘at war’ after Hamas launches surprise attack, takes hostages | CNN

Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared that the country was “at war” on Saturday, after Palestinian militants in Gaza fired a deadly barrage of rockets and sent gunmen into Israeli territory in a major escalation of the long running conflict between the two sides.

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[efil4]

Hamas has fired over 3000 rockets and infiltrated Israel border towns via gliders, trucks, on foot and just opening fire on civilians in cars, at home or walking street.

There will be mass carnage when all said and done. This was a massive, planned operation and Hamas has sealed its fate. Iran reportedly supported Hamas for this operation, which if true, looks like they have solidified another "axis of evil" since partnered up with Russia and NK.

Things are gonna get real hairy here soon.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

Hamas has fired over 3000 rockets and infiltrated Israel border towns via gliders, trucks, on foot and just opening fire on civilians in cars, at home or walking street.

There will be mass carnage when all said and done. This was a massive, planned operation and Hamas has sealed its fate. Iran reportedly supported Hamas for this operation, which if true, looks like they have solidified another "axis of evil" since partnered up with Russia and NK.

Things are gonna get real hairy here soon.

Hezbollah apparently is involved as well.

 

[efil4]

Hezbollah apparently is involved as well.

Yeah all info coming in sporadically.

But what I'm seeing on Telegram is carnage. This was indeed a coordinated assault on civilians and military base on border.

 

[brandon]

For better or worse, Israel has a pretty strong argument that any concessions they were being asked to make are now off the table. I don't think there's any scenario where we can hope to contain Israel's counterattack.

This is going to be bad.

 

[brandon]

Here’s the political angle I’m looking for:

Are republicans gonna balk at supplying Israel with financial support if they ask for it?

Guess we’ll have to wait for SFL to get his talking points to find out, because he doesn’t know what his position is supposed to be yet.

 

[MT15]

Here’s the political angle I’m looking for:

Are republicans gonna balk at supplying Israel with financial support if they ask for it?

Guess we’ll have to wait for SFL to get his talking points to find out, because he doesn’t know what his position is supposed to be yet.

So far, several Rs are blaming Biden/America… echoing Russian talking points. Russia has already said this is the US’s fault and that nothing short of a civil war in the US will stop the US war machine.

Just in case there is any doubt where the talk of civil war on the US right is coming from.

 

[UriUT]

For better or worse, Israel has a pretty strong argument that any concessions they were being asked to make are now off the table. I don't think there's any scenario where we can hope to contain Israel's counterattack.

This is going to be bad.

And this is why Palestine will not get their own state. Hamas lacks strategic thinking. They have just solidified netanyahu's power further. All these criticism towards Israeli slide to autocracy will now be on deaf ears. So they may inflict a little pain. For what? Pure stupidity beyond the senseless deaths.

 

[MT15]

 

[GrandAdmiral]

And this is why Palestine will not get their own state. Hamas lacks strategic thinking. They have just solidified netanyahu's power further. All these criticism towards Israeli slide to autocracy will now be on deaf ears. So they may inflict a little pain. For what? Pure stupidity beyond the senseless deaths.

The only thing I could possibly see for this, outside of pure insanity, is Hamas trying to pull members of Arab nations together to their cause. But I just don't see that happening.

 

[UriUT]

The only thing I could possibly see for this, outside of pure insanity, is Hamas trying to pull members of Arab nations together to their cause. But I just don't see that happening.

They have lost that battle, as the new Arab leaders are profit thinking and less nationalistic. Hamas didn't learn a thing from Arafat. Their mindset is trapped in the past. No strategic thoughts other than violence and retribution. Israel was losing support in the US.

 

[MT15]

Disinfo campaign from Republicans. They are hopeless.

 

[MT15]

Because of Tuberville’s hold - several critical posts are not filled.

 

[MT15]

This makes me so mad - talk of appeasement from Rs who have appeased the radicals in their own party for years. YEARS.

 

[MT15]

 

[MT15]

Speculation:

 

[MT15]

 

[BullSheetBuddha]

Hamas Begins to Establish a Rocket Production Infrastructure in Jenin

Several primitive and ineffective rockets have been fired at Israeli targets. That is how rockets from Gaza began. - Hamas Begins to Establish a Rocket Production Infrastructure in Jenin

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