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    Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'​

    www.yahoo.com

    Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'

    Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the 2024 election.
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    WASHINGTON – It looks like American politics is entering a new age of anxiety, triggered by an unprecedented legal development: The potential indictment of a former president and current presidential candidate.

    Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests by his followers – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the unknowable impact all this will have on the already-tense 2024 presidential election

    I’ll reframe this is a more accurate way, Are Presidents above the law? This new age was spurred into existence when home grown dummies elected a corrupt, mentally ill, anti-democratic, would be dictator as President and don’t bother to hold him responsible for his crimes, don’t want to because in the ensuing mayhem and destruction, they think they will be better off. The man is actually advocating violence (not the first time). And btw, screw democracy too. If this feeling spreads, we are In deep shirt.

    This goes beyond one treasonous Peice of work and out to all his minions. This is on you or should we be sympathetic to the idea of they can’t help being selfish suckers to the Nation’s detriment? Donald Trump is the single largest individual threat to our democracy and it‘s all going to boil down to will the majority of the GOP return to his embrace and start slinging his excrement to support him?
     
    FOUNTAIN HILLS, Ariz. — At a diner known for political chitchat and Coca-Cola memorabilia, former Maricopa County sheriff Joe Arpaio walked from table to table on a recent fall morning, asking voters to back him for mayor of his Phoenix-area hometown — and to support the former president who once rescued him from a potential prison sentence.

    “Are you for Trump?” Arpaio asked one restaurant patron, as town council members, a Republican Party activist and a Bible study groupate breakfast at tables nearby.

    In the six years since Arpaio received Donald Trump’s first presidential pardon, the ex-sheriff known nationally for his anti-immigrant agenda has worked hard to boost his staunch ally in this swing state — from pressing voters one by one to vote for Trump in 2024 to issuing endorsements that the former president has reposted to millions of followers online.

    Never before had a president used his constitutional clemency powers to free or forgive so many people who could be useful to his future political efforts.

    A Washington Post review of Trump’s 238 clemency orders found that dozens of recipients, including Arpaio, have gone on to plug his 2024 candidacy through social media and national interviews, contribute money to his front-running bid for the Republican nomination or disseminate his false claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election.…….


     
    CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa — Republican polling leader Donald Trump moved to deflect from criminal charges that he tried to overturn the 2020 election and from his own pledges to take revenge on his opponents if he returns to the White House, seeking to parry warnings that he presents a danger to democracy.

    His speech on Saturday was an effort to turn the tables on rising alarms from Democrats and some Republicans that Trump’s return to power would imperil free elections and civil liberties. As candidates ramp up appearances in Iowa ahead of the caucuses on Jan. 15, the former president, who refused to accept his 2020 election loss and inspired his supporters to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power, responded by comparing President Biden to a fascist tyrant, and the campaign distributed signs reading ‘BIDEN ATTACKS DEMOCRACY.’

    “Biden and his radical left allies like to pose as defenders of democracy,” Trump told a raucous crowd of a couple thousand supporters here. “But Joe Biden is not the defender of American democracy. Joe Biden is the destroyer of American democracy. … This campaign is a righteous crusade to liberate our republic from Biden and the criminals and the Biden administration.”

    The speech showed that Biden’s framing of the 2024 election as democracy versus authoritarianism is resonating with voters, according to Jennifer Mercieca, a historian of American political rhetoric at Texas A&M University.

    Trump’s strategy to “accuse the accuser” could confuse voters about the real threat and help reassure his own supporters, she said.

    “Trump’s Iowa speech continues his use of fascist rhetoric: it’s us versus them, he tells his supporters, and ‘they’ are enemies who cheat,” she said. “Authoritarians have a lot of rhetorical tricks for explaining away anti-democratic actions as actually ‘democratic.’”……..



     
    Optimus Prime said:
    CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa — Republican polling leader Donald Trump moved to deflect from criminal charges that he tried to overturn the 2020 election and from his own pledges to take revenge on his opponents if he returns to the White House, seeking to parry warnings that he presents a danger to democracy.

    His speech on Saturday was an effort to turn the tables on rising alarms from Democrats and some Republicans that Trump’s return to power would imperil free elections and civil liberties. As candidates ramp up appearances in Iowa ahead of the caucuses on Jan. 15, the former president, who refused to accept his 2020 election loss and inspired his supporters to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power, responded by comparing President Biden to a fascist tyrant, and the campaign distributed signs reading ‘BIDEN ATTACKS DEMOCRACY.’

    “Biden and his radical left allies like to pose as defenders of democracy,” Trump told a raucous crowd of a couple thousand supporters here. “But Joe Biden is not the defender of American democracy. Joe Biden is the destroyer of American democracy. … This campaign is a righteous crusade to liberate our republic from Biden and the criminals and the Biden administration.”

    The speech showed that Biden’s framing of the 2024 election as democracy versus authoritarianism is resonating with voters, according to Jennifer Mercieca, a historian of American political rhetoric at Texas A&M University.

    Trump’s strategy to “accuse the accuser” could confuse voters about the real threat and help reassure his own supporters, she said.

    “Trump’s Iowa speech continues his use of fascist rhetoric: it’s us versus them, he tells his supporters, and ‘they’ are enemies who cheat,” she said. “Authoritarians have a lot of rhetorical tricks for explaining away anti-democratic actions as actually ‘democratic.’”……..



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    Everytime I read one of these articles, I ask myself if people can really be that stupid even though I know the answer is invariably "yes".
     
    He’s terrible. Constantly referring to anyone who disagrees to him as not human: vermin, animals. It’s straight up fascist talk.

     
    A Donald Trump ally who worked in his justice department said on Tuesday that if the former president is elected again, his administration will retaliate against people in the media “criminally or civilly”.

    Kash Patel, who was also chief of staff in the defense department and held a role on the national security council, made the comment on Steve Bannon’s podcast. He said that, in a second Trump administration, “We will go out and find the conspirators not just in government, but in the media,” over the 2020 election, which Trump lost to Joe Biden.…….

    www.theguardian.com

    Trump will target media ‘criminally or civilly’ if re-elected, ally vows

    Kash Patel, who held senior positions in Trump administration, said of members of the media, ‘we’re putting you all on notice’
    www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
     
    SFL’s guy is BIG MAD that Trump’s use of Nazi-adjacent verbiage got called out for what it was. So he goes to “whataboutism”. When you can’t defend something, just point and shout “what about this other thing?”

    His tweets are disingenuous however. First of all, “rats deserting a sinking ship” is a totally different metaphor and has nothing whatsoever to do with what Trump said. Second, he is quoting opinion columns and acting like they are official WaPo reporting. It’s not the same. And lastly, we could have a discussion about some of these, but that’s not what he (nor SFL) is doing. They are just making a big stink to try to justify the unjustifiable. Same old, same old.
     
    MT15 said:
    SFL’s guy is BIG MAD that Trump’s use of Nazi-adjacent verbiage got called out for what it was. So he goes to “whataboutism”. When you can’t defend something, just point and shout “what about this other thing?”

    His tweets are disingenuous however. First of all, “rats deserting a sinking ship” is a totally different metaphor and has nothing whatsoever to do with what Trump said. Second, he is quoting opinion columns and acting like they are official WaPo reporting. It’s not the same. And lastly, we could have a discussion about some of these, but that’s not what he (nor SFL) is doing. They are just making a big stink to try to justify the unjustifiable. Same old, same old.
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    You never change. You keep posting stuff about Trump calling people vermin and how it's reminiscent of fascists, but when you are shown that the extension of the Democrat Party in the Washington Post did exactly what Trump did you then retreat to whataboutism.

    Whataboutism is used to try to stop questions into whether people on their side follow the same standards they impose on others.

    I wasn't defending what Trump said. Just pointing the obvious hypocrisy.

    Rats deserting a sinking ship has no relation to the word vermin? 😆
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    You are trying to act as if editorials from the Washington Post aren't really from the Washington Post? Your explanations just get sillier and sillier.
     
    SaintForLife said:
    Rats deserting a sinking ship has no relation to the word vermin?
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    Not in the Nazi-like use of the word, no. One is describing a natural phenomenon and comparing people deserting a cause that is sinking to rats deserting a sinking ship. The other is using the word “vermin” to dehumanize political opponents and with the added benefit of Trump promising to eliminate these vermin from our country. Even you should be able to see the difference here, it’s not difficult.

    Look, I can have a nuanced discussion about this subject, but I doubt that is what you want. In fact, I’m positive you don’t want that.
     

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